This site is about my personal interests in railway & tramway modelling; railway history; bus and trolley bus models and modelling; bus company history and in the various railway & tramway systems, covering British, European, Canadian, USA & South American prototypes.
Also a “new” (about 12 years) interest in Boule (petanque) which we play all year round.
In diesem Blog geht es um meine persönlichen Interessen in der Eisenbahn- und Straßenbahnmodellierung, der Eisenbahngeschichte, der Busmodellierung und in den verschiedenen Eisenbahn- und Straßenbahnprototypen, die britische, europäische, kanadische, amerikanische und südamerikanische Prototypen abdecken.
Auch ein “neues” (ca. 12 Jahre) Interesse an Boule (Petanque), das wir das ganze Jahr spielen.
Ce blog traite de mes intérêts personnels dans la modélisation des chemins de fer et des tramways, l’histoire des chemins de fer, la modélisation des autobus et dans les divers prototypes de tramways et de tramways, couvrant des prototypes britanniques, européens, canadiens, américains et sud-américains.
Aussi un “nouvel” intérêt (environ 12 ans) pour la pétanque que nous jouons toute l’année.
This site is owned and managed by Tony Bettger, a former long standing Liphook & District MRC member (2003 to 2016) with responsibilities for publicity/website and at different periods Treasurer and Secretary.
His interest in model railways goes back to 1949 and a few Hornby Dublo wagons and some track on the Dining -Room table! An interest in railways came somewhat earlier, watching trains on the Winchester /Alton line from his bedroom window at Hookpit, a small village near Winchester. The Waterloo/Southampton main line with “Spam Cans” and early diesels, was also within hearing distance, as was the ex-GWR Didcot, Newbury & Southampton line.
He was a regular bus watcher & traveller from an early age- the local operator King Alfred Motor Services operated a Bedford OB with wooden seats (utility) and a Guy Austerity double decker in the late 40’s, to serve the area and “modern” Leyland double deckers later. His parents moved to Farnham in the Fifties and it was back to a Guy Austerity (with perhaps a newer body), on Aldershot & District services, which were of course a large Dennis user, but not on his route to secondary school!
Why the Milland Valley Railway?
The Milland Valley is a real place in the United Kingdom, as far west as you can get in the northern part of West Sussex- up against the eastern borders of Hampshire and the southern border of Surrey. About half way between Guildford & Portsmouth. It contains a number of small villages and hamlets, the largest of which is probably Milland.
Administratively in the County of West Sussex, part of Chichester D.C. , although most of the postal addresses are Liphook, Hampshire, the Milland Valley was part of the Hollycombe Estate, which was owned from 1888 to 1936 by Sir John Hawkshaw , famous Victorian civil engineer, involved extensively in British, Continental & South American railway, docks & canal projects. His son John Clarke Hawkshaw was also a civil engineer. The family was connected by marriages to the Wedgwood’s , owners of the famous pottery firm of Stoke on Trent. A new biography of Sir John by Michael Beaumont was published in 2016.
Milland as a village is of recent creation with the building of homes in the 50’s, 60’s & 7o’s around a village pub in Milland Marsh. The pub was built on spec by Brickwoods as a road-house for a Liphook by pass scheme, in the 30’s, which never happened. Milland is part of the South Downs National Park, first mooted in 1949 and the latest National Park to be created in the UK, in April 2011.
There was a plan for a railway line to be built from Midhurst to Haslemere, which would have passed through the valley, but it too was never built.
The name Milland Valley Railway was derived from the name of a fictional American style model railway layout (Milland Valley Railroad) that was never built! The name however bound together location & interests without having an allegiance to a single club, so was registered as this sites domain name.
This site has been in existence since 2007 and formerly included the activities of the Gauge O Group at the South Hants Model Railway Club- (GOSH) for a short time & of the L&DMRC for nearly 10 years.
If you’ve come to this site expecting to see current information on the Liphook & District Model Railway Club, that has not been included since late 2016. I’m sorry, but some sites seem incapable to respond to requests for their links to be updated. Please contact the L&DMRC secretary email@example.com and advise which site directed you here- Thanks!
L&DMRC archive material remains on this site for the foreseeable future.
Local Groups that may be of interest
LIPHOOK U3A/MIDHURST U3A -MILLAND VALLEY RAILWAY MODELLERS
The group had its first meeting in April 2017 as the Building a Model Railway Group 2017. Meetings are held on a Wednesday afternoon of each month. (No meetings in July ,August or December)The last session was intended to be held in March 2018, but it has been decided for the group to transform into an afternoon model railway group for the coming year and hopefully beyond. – See the Milland Valley Railway Modellers page on this site for more details
Please contact the group via the Liphook or Midhurst U3A’s websites or via firstname.lastname@example.org. New members are being actively sought.
LIPHOOK U3A TRANSPORT GROUP
I formed this new group as Transport Interests in early 2016. The group covers all the major forms of land, water and air transport, including railways, buses, coaches, trams, military vehicles, civil and military aircraft, merchant & naval ships, canals & canal craft etc .
The group continues under the leadership of Bill Gill -with a number of visits already made and a whole programme for 2018 in operation.
LIPHOOK U3A BOULE GROUP 1
We have been members of this group for around 12 years and have played all year round for most of that time, with occasional playing visits to France, Spain and Gibraltar. This group started playing in Liss Forest at The Temple Inn. Unfortunately the pub, has over the last couple of years,been in the process of being redeveloped and the boule terrain which we upgraded and improved over many years, is no longer available. After temporary arrangements over these 2 years, the group has recently transferred to a new terrain at the Milland Sports Club.
Currently the group is over subscribed and entry to new members is closed
Membership of these U3A groups is restricted to paid up members of Liphook U3A (currently £12 per annum) or certain other local U3A’s- Haslemere, Petersfield, Woolmer Forest (Whitehill & Bordon) and Midhurst.
U3A’s (University of the Third Age) are for retired or semi retired ladies and gents. No formal qualifications are awarded or required. A separate group annual fee may be payable to fund meeting room hire & external speakers. There will be additional costs for any entrance charges/travel costs on arranged visits to places of interest.
Most of the local model railway groups are linked to this site- see side bar
To encourage young peoples interest in engineering at the local Hollycombe Primary School (built originally by the Hawkshaws), my family have sponsored “The Hawkshaw Shield” to be awarded annually to the pupil showing the greatest aptitude/interest in Science, Technology, Engineering and Maths (STEM). The winner also receives a book token.
For 2017, the first year of the award, the shield was presented to two pupils Samuel Gunther and William Quinnell. This year it was awarded to Gabriella Gorton.
Well done to them all and best wishes for the future!
MILLAND BOULE GROUP- part of Milland Sports Club
This newly formed group is part of the Milland Sports Club , following the building of a new terrain built with the help of a substantial donation from profits of the Annual Milland Firework Display.
The group meets every Wednesday morning throughout the year-weather permitting from 10.30 to 12.30
See the designated page on this site,and a new Facebook Page Milland Valley – Boule (Petanque) Group for more details and contact info
Revised March 2016/ April 2016/May 2016/June 2016/July 2016/August 2016/September 2016/October 2016/ November 2016/December 2016/January 2017/February 2017- major re-positioning of content from other pages/ March 2017 Diary changes /April 2017-updated details on Building a Model Railway Group 2017/ May 2017- general update and rewording or deletion of some items/June 2017 Exhibition updates/July 2017/Some re-arrangement to order of items on this page October 2017/ Jan 2018/ February 2018-introduction of Milland Valley Railway Modellers/April 2018 general tidying/August 2018-several