This site is about my personal interests in railway & tramway modelling; railway history; bus and trolley bus models and modelling; bus company history and in the various railway & tramway systems, covering British, European, Canadian, USA & South American prototypes.
In diesem Blog geht es um meine persönlichen Interessen in der Eisenbahn- und Straßenbahnmodellierung, der Eisenbahngeschichte, der Busmodellierung und in den verschiedenen Eisenbahn- und Straßenbahnprototypen, die britische, europäische, kanadische, amerikanische und südamerikanische Prototypen abdecken.
Ce blog traite de mes intérêts personnels dans la modélisation des chemins de fer et des tramways, l’histoire des chemins de fer, la modélisation des autobus et dans les divers prototypes de tramways et de tramways, couvrant des prototypes britanniques, européens, canadiens, américains et sud-américains.
This site is owned and managed by Tony Bettger, a former long standing L&DMRC member (2003 to 2016) with responsibilities for publicity/website and at different periods Treasurer and Secretary.
My interest in model railways goes back to 1949 and a few Hornby Dublo wagons and some track on the Dining -Room table! An interest in railways came somewhat earlier, watching trains on the Winchester /Alton line from my bedroom window at Hookpit, a small village near Winchester. The Waterloo/Southampton main line with “Spam Cans” and early diesels, was also within hearing distance, as was the ex-GWR Didcot, Newbury & Southampton line.
I was a regular bus watcher & traveller from an early age- the local operator King Alfred Motor Services operated a Bedford OB with wooden seats (utility) and a Guy Austerity double decker in the late 40’s, to serve the area and “modern” Leyland double deckers later. My parents moved to Farnham in the Fifties and it was back to a Guy Austerity (with perhaps a newer body), on Aldershot & District services, which were of course a large Dennis user, but not on my route to secondary school!
Why the Milland Valley Railway?
The Milland Valley is a real place in the United Kingdom, as far west as you can get in the northern part of West Sussex- up against the eastern borders of Hampshire and the southern border of Surrey. About half way between Guildford & Portsmouth. It contains a number of small villages and hamlets, the largest of which is probably Milland.
Administratively in the County of West Sussex, part of Chichester D.C. , although the postal address is Liphook, Hampshire, the Milland Valley was part of the Hollycombe Estate, which was owned from 1888 to 1936 by Sir John Hawkshaw , famous Victorian civil engineer, involved extensively in British, Continental & South American railway, docks & canal projects. His son John Clarke Hawkshaw was also a civil engineer. The family was connected by marriages to the Wedgwood’s , owners of the famous pottery firm of Stoke on Trent. A new biography of Sir John by Michael Beaumont was published in 2016.
To encourage young peoples interest in engineering at the local Hollycombe Primary School (built originally by the Hawkshaws), my family have sponsored “The Hawkshaw Shield” to be awarded annually to the pupil showing the greatest aptitude/interest in Science, Technology, Engineering and Maths (STEM). The winner also receives a book token.
For 2017, the first year of the award, the shield was presented to two pupils Samuel Gunther and William Quinnell. Well done to them and best wishes for the future!
Milland as a village is of recent creation with the building of homes in the 50’s, 60’s & 7o’s around a village pub in Milland Marsh. The pub was built on spec by Brickwoods as a road-house for a Liphook by pass scheme, in the 30’s, which never happened. Milland is part of the South Downs National Park, first mooted in 1949 and the latest National Park to be created in the UK, in April 2011.
There was a plan for a railway line to be built from Midhurst to Haslemere, which would have passed through the valley, but it too was never built.
The name Milland Valley Railway was derived from the name of a fictional American style model railway layout (Milland Valley Railroad) that I never built! The name however bound together location & interests without having an allegiance to a single club, so was registered as this sites domain name.
This site has been in existence since 2007 and formerly included the activities of the Gauge O Group at the South Hants Model Railway Club- (GOSH) for a short time & of the L&DMRC for nearly 10 years.
If you’ve come to this site expecting to see current information on the L&DMRC, that has not been included since late 2016. I’m sorry, but some sites seem incapable to respond to requests for their links to be updated. Please contact the L&DMRC club secretary firstname.lastname@example.org and advise which site directed you here- Thanks!
L&DMRC archive material remains on this site for the foreseeable future.
Local Events that may be of interest
Bus/ Transport Rallies/ Fairs
See Bus and Transport preservation magazines and rally/fairs websites for full details
Friday March 10th-Sunday March 12th 2017
Victoria Coach station 85th Birthday
Saturday 19th March 2017
Winchester- Front entrance Running Day from 10.00
Monday 1st May 2017 (Bank Holiday)
Winchester Buses Running Day
Sunday 14th May 2017
Basingstoke Festival of Transport
Sunday 11th June 2017
Southsea Spectacular Southsea Common 10.00 am to 4.30 pm
Sunday 16th July 2017
Alton Bus Rally
Sunday 6th August 2017
Tinkers Park Bus Rally A272 Hadlow Down, Uckfield TN22 4HS
Saturday 9th September 2017
Winchester Evening Running Day 16.00 to 21.30
See model railway press for full details of location, opening times and entry prices .I shall be assisting in exhibiting the specified layouts at the events marked*
18th– Abingdon & District MRC Exhibition*-White Horse Leisure & Tennis Centre with Nick Harling’s Kanjiyama– Japanese N scale
25th/26th London Festival of Railway Modelling– Alexandra Palace
22nd– Rotarail 2017- Fareham College- (L&DMRC layout Titherleigh on display)
22nd– Personal Layout Show-The Coombe Court, the Steyning Centre, Fletcher’s Croft, Steyning, West Sussex BN44 3XZ
22nd/23rd Crawley MRS Exhibition
Epsom & Ewell Show- NESCOT(North East Surrey College of Technology)- Ewell
1st– Farnham & District MRC O Gauge Open Day– Wrecclesham Community Centre (Farnham)
6th–SWING- Felpham Community Centre
21st GlobalRail – German Railway Society –Didcot
22nd/23rd- Festival of Tramway Modelling– London Museum of Water & Steam (Kew)
2nd– Burgess Hill Model Railway Club Exhibition– Burgess Hill Girls School
2nd/3rd–Gauge O Guild Annual Exhibition-Telford International Centre
9th/10th–International N Gauge Show-Warwickshire Exhibition Centre- near Leamington Spa
30th- The European Railways Assoc. Model Railway Show- Edgbaston (Birmingham)
7th/8th Railex- Fareham & District MRC Fareham Leisure Centre, Park Lane Fareham PO16 7LU
14th– Winchester Annual American & Continental O Gauge Exhibition, Kings School, Romsey Road, SO22 5PN 10.00 am -4.00 pm
29th- Model Trains in the Valley 8th Annual Open Day of L&DMRC- MVMH, Iping Road, Milland GU30 7NA 10.00 am to 4.00 pm
2017- Other events
13th Liphook U3A Open Day– Liphook Millennium Hall from 2.00 pm, including launch of Building a Model Railway Group- see below
25th-South Downs Group of the 7mm Narrow Gauge Association-Bacon & Bash- Pagham (7mm NGA members only)
20th- TLRS AGM Birmingham (TLRS members only)
10th–7mm NGA Exhibition & AGM – Burton on Trent Town Hall
21st& 22nd– Milland Heritage Exhibition- Milland Valley Memorial Hall
LIPHOOK U3A-TRANSPORT INTERESTS GROUP I formed this new group in early 2016. The group covers all the major forms of land, water and air transport, including railways, buses, coaches, trams, military vehicles, civil and military aircraft, merchant & naval ships, canals & canal craft etc .
The group continues under the leadership of Bill Gill -with a number of visits planned.
The group had its first meeting in April 2017. Meetings are held on the 3rd Wednesday of each month. (No meetings in July, August or December) Currently the last session will be held in June 2018, but it is possible for the group to continue if the members wish. Click on the heading to see details on a new page. Please contact the group via the Liphook U3A website or via email@example.com. There are two or three places still available.
Membership of these groups is restricted to paid up members of Liphook U3A (currently £12 per annum) or certain other local U3A’s- Haslemere, Petersfield and Woolmer Forest.
U3A’s (University of the Third Age) are for retired or semi retired ladies and gents. No formal qualifications are awarded or required. A separate group annual fee may be payable to fund meeting room hire & external speakers. There will be additional costs for any entrance charges/travel costs on arranged visits to places of interest.
Revised March 2016/ April 2016/May 2016/June 2016/July 2016/August 2016/September 2016/October 2016/ November 2016/December 2016/January 2017/February 2017- major re-positioning of content from other pages/ March 2017 Diary changes /April 2017-updated details on Building a Model Railway Group 2017/ May 2017- general update and rewording or deletion of some items/June 2017 Exhibition updates/July 2017/Some re-arrangement to order of items on this page October 2017